Ralf Finance Asset Management

[livemealone]

Have been searching for about a month now and can't find anything decisive about this website. My story: I have being trying to make a withdrawn since my first contract expired on april 23rd (exactly one month today) and am always getting an error message which is "Withdrawn execution error, please try again" . Well I have tried, for a month now. I see that some people here have them on their signature, so I'm actually hoping to hear from members specially, their experience, and if ever this happened to them as well and how it was dealt.

I did try to contact the admin aka Mr. Joseph Lehmann, and have received 3 replies from him, the latest being on May 3rd. Here is the letter:

I appologise for an obvious mistake on my part.
Please withdraw YOUR money, and we updated your
account balance with
compensation. Your success is our success,
Marcelo.

Please report me about success, and i hope , You
'll continue
partnership. Sorry me again.

Thank You,

Joseph Lehmann
--
Ralf Finance Support Center
<24support@ralf-finance.com>

Yeah, so as you know already, my withdrawn is still on the making, and this compesation is still to be seen by my account .

I don't really care about this money I invested to be honest; it would be nice to get paid by another program, but as you know it, rule #1 says never invest something you can't afford to lose. What I do care about thought is that everywhere I look this HYIP is highly rated, and I just don't think they are legit as these ratings keep on insisting it is, and sure don't want to see it taking anybody else's e-gold.

PS: Mods, I thought about putting on watching and waiting section, but I first would like to get some input on this from other program members.

[Los]

I understand did you find this program here??

[livemealone]

I understand did you find this program here??

Yes los, in more than one person's signature, that's why I decided to go ahead and invest on it. As a matter of fact I even pm'ed zen about it when I tried my first withdrawn to ask if there was a thread on Ralf Finance already as my searches didn't turn any results and I didn't want to start a second one; since the program was around for awhile I figured there was one, I just didn't find it.

Just in case someone is wondering, THIS is the link to the website.

[Los]

Ok i dont know them myself but a quick look at their site says their contact details are:Main numbers and reception

Tel.

+44 (020) 8133-3017 (UK)
+44 (020) 8133-7781 (UK)
+1 (347) 694-4779 (US)



Email

24support@ralf-finance.com

Group Headquarters

Ralf Finance Asset Management
3000 Cathedral Hill
Guildford GU2 7YB
United Kingdom

My advice would be to contact them direct.

the few monitors i looked at indicated they were still paying paying so i would either contact your upline direct or contact them direct for more info.

[forwardone]

Since this is a discussion about an HYIP it needs to be in the HYIP folder, rather than General Discussions. Let`s see if any of our other members can provide any answers to your question, livemealone.

http://ralf-finance.com/home.shtml

[livemealone]

Thanx forwardone.

Los, I've tried both numbers for UK and they both are faxes, I did not find that US number so I am going to try that and I will let you know the outcome.
I just checked my inbox and I got this reply from Mr. Joseph Lehmann

Dear Marcelo,

I received your email yesterday, 'll let You know
about this today.

Thank You,

Joseph Lehmann
--
Caring for People and their Financial Security
Ralf Finance Support Center
<24support@ralf-finance.com>

I also will let you know the outcome of this (this was a reply of my 7th e-mail I sent him 2 days ago, I've been sending one a day now )

[ulman]

That's an intersting story... You are the first I hear to complain. I have heard many people getting paid instantly and had a few payouts myself.

I truly hope you get your problem solved quickly...

[livemealone]

UPDATE:

Los, thanx for the phone numbers I called the US number and for my surprise it wasn't another fax signal, but rather a voicemail system, so I left a message with my phone number and Client ID and my little WD problem, I'll let you guys know when they call me.

Just a reminder, I sent another e-mail to Mr. Joseph Lehmann, as I did not hear from him like he said I would on his e-mail.

"Dear Mr. Joseph Lehmann,
This is just to remind you I am waitting on your reply as you said on your last e-mail with a solution to my withdrawn problem."

I'll let you know if he answers this one as well.

That's an intersting story... You are the first I hear to complain. I have heard many people getting paid instantly and had a few payouts myself.

I truly hope you get your problem solved quickly...

Thanx, I do hope to get my problem solved too. This is what I don't get though, I even have asked if he could have done the withdrawn manually for me and I didn't get a response to that neither. C'mon man, 31 days now since my first e-mail and no solution to my problem. All the responses I get is just an acknowledgment that they have received my request and that they will look into that; how many replies do I seriously need to know that?!

[livemealone]

Double post

Got a response . Not exactly the one I wanted, but it's something . Ok, apparently my account is limited to a max daily withdrawn of $20. Just put the first request and it went through, now I'll be stalking my e-gold account LOL.
Am I the only one with this limit?! My initial investment was $1000 in case anyone is wondering.

[zen]

livemealone,
good to hear that you are making some progress with Ralf.
Often a program does have a min w/d amount, but this is something that is often overlooked when joining and investing in a program. You have to learn to put that on your list of things to verify when you are looking over a program, and in just looking over this program, I don't see that information readily available.

Here is "whois" information:

Results for ralf-finance.com:

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IP Address: 66.148.88.82

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Registration Service Provided By: Rustelekom
Contact: info@rustelekom.biz

Domain name: ralf-finance.com

Registrant Contact:

Ralf Rivera (24support@ralf-finance.com)
+1.9094980426
Fax: +1.9094980426
1876 Data Dr,N120
Birmingham, AL 35244
US

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Ralf Rivera (24support@ralf-finance.com)
+1.9094980426
Fax: +1.9094980426
1876 Data Dr,N120
Birmingham, AL 35244
US

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Ralf Rivera (24support@ralf-finance.com)
+1.9094980426
Fax: +1.9094980426
1876 Data Dr,N120
Birmingham, AL 35244
US

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Results for 66.148.88.82:

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Hummmm, none of this information matches any of the contact information shown on the website, nor the contact name you mentioned. I some how think that "Ralf Rivera" is a fictious name, as it is not consistent with the scheme of things. At least there are some other phone numbers to try.
At this point, this program does seem to be paying well, and there are a lot of cheerleaders over at TG who are very happy with it. Short life so far, since March, but anytime I worry about the credibility (or lack of) information, I remind myself of Solid Investment.

Good luck with this one.

zen